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Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 227	Posted - 2012.10.20 21:18:00 - [1] - Quote Posting in another thread by someone who has no idea how nullsec works.
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 248	Posted - 2012.10.24 10:22:00 - [2] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Robert De'Arneth wrote: I am still trying to figure out how removing local increases the targets? Anyone? Please? It will, for about 3 days until all the nullsec ratters think 'yeah, screw this, I'm heading back to highsec L4s'. And then all you have left in 0.0 is the occasional moon mining tower and gangs of stealth bombers and recons blundering around in the darkness in the futile hope there might be something to shoot this time. Pretty much sums up how it would work. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 252	Posted - 2012.10.24 15:47:00 - [3] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: You can have a box that tells the number in system but not any thing else. As in a few people can go unnoticed but 200 would throw up a warning If your watching for it. That's also pretty pointless. +1 in the system I warp to POS Inquisitor Kitchner> Who's there? Ally> Only me friend! Inquisitor Kitchner> OK thanks bro continues ratting "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 252	Posted - 2012.10.24 16:17:00 - [4] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: And your point? Populated null systems and near by systems have 4 or 5 people Coming and going all the time. So if you want to.spend.every 30.seconds.running to a pos be my guest. Right now locals 100% accurate with this its less reliable but still use full to see if there's a major.encroachment on your space while giving the.little.guys some leeway to roam and cause some.damage. Bah phone typing. Since no-one in their right mind would rat or mine or whatever in a system where 4 or 5 people -úcome and go all the time" then they are probably stupid enough to get caught now too. You honestly need to sit down and have a proper think through about what you suggest from all angles. Removing local or even the player list doesn't help small roams. How on earth would you know when someone is in the system? Even if you did know they were there you might hunt them down to only find its an ally anyway. Of course the counter would be to have those details to show up if you can someone down. That means your elite ~wulfpax~ gang of 5 people now needs to drop one of your combat/EWAR ships for a scanning frig that doesn't do any DPS. You could make it so only cloaked vessels don't show in local, but I fear it would just result in a massively overpowered system. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 273	Posted - 2012.10.25 17:38:00 - [5] - Quote svenska flicka wrote: What is safer, mining/doing anoms etc with local or without? I'll give you a minute to bullshit yourself out of that one. Without of course. Because without local I'd go do my ratting etc in High Sec and be totally safe. HTH "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 287	Posted - 2012.10.26 14:55:00 - [6] - Quote Katran Luftschreck wrote: I will conclude with one of Agent Smith's most famous quotes: "You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until you realise you can actually do the same thing for a lot less hassle somewhere else, and ther'e's no benefit to you risking your ship everyday. The only way you can compete with all the other players with High Sec alts is to spread to another area (i.e. High Sec). There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is?GRRRRRRR GOONS!" FYP "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 396	Posted - 2012.11.12 11:27:00 - [7] - Quote Nar Zandev wrote: TL;DR The fact remains that NULL would have at least 4.2 more pvp in it if there would be no local. These numbers aren`t mine, are from CCP statistics, based on REAL events. I am sorry if your nullbear fear hinders you to see the reality. No. You're wrong. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 405	Posted - 2012.11.13 11:32:00 - [8] - Quote Signal11th wrote: Lord Zim wrote: So you want to make nullsec into a more dangerous WH so you can go more into lowsec and jita than nullsec? vOv ??? You seem to be going around in circles Zim without actually going anywhere, what's so wrong with a small trial. See I can also make glib remarks. Because you can't recover from the damage that would be caused by ideas that would kill off activity in Null. People would stop living there and move to High. When they are back in High they wouldn't go back to null because they realise you make almost as much money for no-where near as much risk. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 408	Posted - 2012.11.13 12:43:00 - [9] - Quote Signal11th wrote: So your reasoning to leave 0.0 alone because high-sec is broken? I remember when I first started hearing all these stories about 0.0 so I ventured forth and found myself in 0.0. There I found 10% of people were actually interested in fighting and the other 90% more interested in making isk and staying as far away from a fight as possible. Unless you haven't noticed we all play on one server. I'm not sure where you're from in the world but you may have noticed that countries are way past the point where the goings on in one country has no effect on its neighbours, and EVE is no different. Now the world is (largely) a free market economy the US banking industry effects the EU banking industry, food consumption in China effects food prices in the UK, producing less oil in the Middle East effects petrol prices in the US etc. You can't just say "well high sec is fine, therefore the problem is with null because no-one is there" because that's foolish. All players, the areas of the game they play (be it PvP, mission runners, FW, miners etc) and the regions of space they live in are fundamentally linked. To deny this is the case is foolish. Fact is when you make make ALMOST as much money in High Sec for NO WHERE NEAR as much risk it will draw people "living" in null sec into High Sec. I can't speak for others but personally it wouldn't bother me if ganking someone in high sec dropped 0 loot. I think it should be possible as I like the fact you can't run your mouth without possibly risking retribution (hur hur) in this game. However if high sec players want high sec to be safer that's fine, as long as the income drops too. If they want to earn more money then risk should be increased. That's not because I hate high sec players, but because I like EVE. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 408	Posted - 2012.11.13 12:47:00 - [10] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: It's not just risk, but also effort. And actually, costs, too. I sort of assumed those went without saying to be honest. EDIT: Thinking on it though this is actually the harder part to do. Ratting in a carrier in null is easy and make you a shed ton of money, it's just very very risky. The main thing imo should be risk and reward. You'll never find something that takes effort that players wont make easier anyway. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 409	Posted - 2012.11.13 16:22:00 - [11] - Quote MasterEnt wrote: My reason, as most others who are for it, are that we like the experience of not knowing who is in the system with us via a magical intel box. We like the thrill of needing probes and scouts, working as a team as EVE intended. We like feeling that anyone can sneak up on us and vaporize us. We like the risk associated with it. I like being able to live in nullsec. Do you know what that requires? A way to make isk. Do you know what happens if you try to fight someone in a PvE ship when they are in a PvP ship? You die in a fire. This is all fine, because at the moment assuming you are skillful enough (please note the word skill) to make sure you constantly pay attention to what you're doing and you work together (please note work together) with your fellow alliance members to have an intel channel you should be fine. If you remove local I can fly around in say a cynabal and pretty much just one on one kill a load of ratters with 0 effort. But then again I wouldn't need to do it alone do I? Because no-one can see the 20 ships jump into the system, run into every belt and tackle what is there. There is no thrill in that type of gameplay and it takes no skill. What is better is the current system, and here is the key, with more people ratting. Why you ask? Because it means statistically your roam is more likely to find someone who has thought "Hmm I just got a message on facebook, I'll be ok if I check it for 10 seconds alt tab". You remove local you wont have targets to find in null sec to probe down or scout out, because they'll all be gone. Quote: And frankly, after all the hubub with Hulkageddon and "emergent-gameplay" and "risk-averse" miners... We thought Nullbears liked risk also... Our bad. There are a whole bunch of things in this sentence that show you have never lived in null sec or have any idea what its like If you want to actually try Null out let me know, and after living there if your opinion is still the same then fair enough. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 411	Posted - 2012.11.13 17:25:00 - [12] - Quote Signal11th wrote: Don't assume all of us who want local removed have never been in 0.0, I remember being kicked out of Delve, then Fountain, then Venal humm then Delve again, strangely enough usually by the same people Doffs cap at Mr.Zim Saying that I'm sort of in between, I'd like local to go just for the outrage plus the increased stress levels but not without something bloody good in its place. I don't assume that at all (though I still think you're wrong) the comments were based off the fact this guy said: Quote: And frankly, after all the hubub with Hulkageddon and "emergent-gameplay" and "risk-averse" miners... We thought Nullbears liked risk also... Our bad Firstly he used quote marks around the words "emergent gameplay" when quoting hulkageddon, which would imply of course that he doesn't agree with it, or at least the catergorisation of it being emergrent gameplay. The fact is that by the definition of the phrase that is exactly what it is, yet he feels the need to "quote" the phrase because he can't subconsciously bring himself to type it naturally. Second he refers to miners as risk-averse in quotes (somehow implying they aren't despite the fact they are doing the safest thing in EVE). Same thing applies as before, for some reason he feels labeling miners as risk averse is somehow a matter of opinion where it's actually a matter of fact. Finally he's arguing for changes in nullsec, which are quite easily argued against, and refers to everyone as nullbears. I'd bet decent money he's never tried to actually live in null sec. As for you, if you have plenty of experience in null and still want to remove local then you are misguided rather then ignorant ;) "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 413	Posted - 2012.11.13 23:01:00 - [13] - Quote MasterEnt wrote: HOW DARE YOU SAY I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE ON ABOUT! MY ALT IS A SUPER ELITE NULL PVP BET YET I CHOOSE TO POST AS THIS ALT FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER It's be funny if it wasn't so predictable. Post on your main character then if you have all this null sec experience. Although you wont, because you don't. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 415	Posted - 2012.11.13 23:47:00 - [14] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: Some people have far to much to lose by doing so just because your not important enough to have to deal with that portion of the meta Game doesn't mean others don't. So get over your killbored stats its not CoD your k/d ratio means truly nothing in even so lost as u get your objective. What sort of random scrub are you? You haven't even read any of the discussion and just assumed I was talking about killboard stats. I actually said I don't think the poster has ever lived in null. Not "he's not pro PvP" or "He sucks at eve" just that he was coming at the topic from a position of ignorance. He then claimed to have a alt in null sec which was very experienced, despite all his opinions and writing style clearly showing to anyone with half a brain he's never lived in null. Then you come is with your slip shod english and comment on something that's not even being discussed. Usually I tell people to never stop posting, however in your case I'll make an exception: Stop posting. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 419	Posted - 2012.11.14 01:20:00 - [15] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: My thread I shall post what I wish. Think this thread ceased to be yours about the time you stopped reading people's posts and just replied with what you reckon they were probably saying instead of what they were actually saying. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 424	Posted - 2012.11.14 10:00:00 - [16] - Quote Mirima Thurander wrote: Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: Think this thread ceased to be yours about the time you stopped reading people's posts and just replied with what you reckon they were probably saying instead of what they were actually saying. I'm drawing conclusions just like they are about no local. U said null sec experience and most people go KILLBORED stats lulz. So go on I know what your talking about and I was simply pointing out the fact some people CANT post with mains for the fact of losing face with there overlords. U know this if u new any thing about the way null works. Most people usually apologise when they made a mistake but hey you know whatever. There are plenty of "important people" in null who post on here with their mains. If they aren't willing to put their name to an opinion then they shouldn't spout it off and when challenged claim they have loads of pvp experience or have lived in nullsec for years etc. It's like a company telling it's investors it's making loads of profit but never showing them the books: Sure they say they are doing well, but how can you know? If you're posting on an alt fair enough, personally I think it's sad you feel the need to disconnect your "main" EVE identity from your opinions as they are that out of line with the community you fear retribution(Gäó). However if you do post with an alt the "lol my main is like soooooooo experienced and what ur on about, you just can't tell as this is an alt" is a boring, predictable and stupid argument that often isn't true. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 425	Posted - 2012.11.14 14:28:00 - [17] - Quote MasterEnt wrote: More sutff about he has loads of null sec alts, honestly, and like if he would tell you who they are you would totally regret everything you have said because his skill are really awesome but he's too smart for that. Honest. lol "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 428	Posted - 2012.11.14 15:28:00 - [18] - Quote MasterEnt wrote: Dang, should have not wasted so much time talking out of your @ss. Well, I would love to continue to have this battle of the wits... alas, you are an unarmed man. What a typical pubbie alt who's never been into nullsec response. It's easy to tell who the guys are who don't live in null sec because they are the ones who throw a hissy fit over words as they've never had someone actually blow up their ship "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 440	Posted - 2012.11.15 10:57:00 - [19] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: You jump into nullsec ! A wild blob has appeared ! Blob uses Call Primary ! It's super effective ! Random PvPer has been exploded ! Blob uses Bubble ! It's effective ! Random PvPer has been podded ! Random PvPer dropped: Wreck, modules, tears Blob has gained: 3 XP ! I expected better posting quality from a Goon :/ "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 448	Posted - 2012.11.15 16:56:00 - [20] - Quote Spaceman Jack wrote: OK OK - I admit it. I am MasterEnts Main... or alt... or whatever you want me to be. And despite being the same person behind the name I disagree with him completely on everything he said. You were right, posting with a different name changes everything. On that note - REMOVE LOCAL! Wow, so your null sec elite main alt was ALSO a character that has no idea what they were talking about? I love being right about this. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 463	Posted - 2012.11.16 23:03:00 - [21] - Quote MasterEnt wrote: Maybe nullsec isn't empty because of opportunities, maybe its the company kept. Its all good guys, everything is frustrating when you don't know what you are doing. Not everyone can make a sandcastle. The OP made a statement about nullsecers being disappointing.., I happen to agree. It is as simple as that. Random scrubs from NPC corps that have never lived in null sec are disappointing too, yet you keep posting for some reason. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 470	Posted - 2012.11.17 02:17:00 - [22] - Quote This thread is so bad it's actually managed to get past my shiptoasting barriers. Goodbye thread. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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